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Posted by tomikd on 04 Aug 2014, 14:56

Mary Rose, sail ship from Airfix in 1:400 scale. This is fast model in these hollydays times. It is very nice small piece of mini. Very easy and simply construction, with few details. I don´t like that smooth surface in botom of ship, so I made it rough ( I don´t know if is it good in english :-D ) You can see it in picture now it is look like wood, I hope :-) ImageImage
I glued it and made few layer of colour. I use acrylic colour. First yellow, second orange, third brown layer of colour.
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Now just how to make ropes and sails, because I don´t like the airfix version with the plastic sail.
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Posted by Kekso on 04 Aug 2014, 17:46

Something different... oh yes :thumbup:
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Posted by Peter on 05 Aug 2014, 18:17

Small, but a fantastic project! Looking forward to see how you will do the ropes and the sails! :thumbup:
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Posted by Beano Boy on 06 Aug 2014, 05:15

I have giving this topic of yours great thought.
Perhaps fine fishing line could be used on your model ship,because that stuff is made in the same way as is larger rope,so you won`t have to make yours out of cotton or fine wire perhaps stripped out of a length of electric cable. Years ago I made a hot air balloon,and made the basket ,the rigging and,the net over the balloon using fishing line.
On You Tube plenty of stuff on how to make rope for ships rigging,and how to rig sails and such. It is going to be very fiddly work, but then you knew that when you bought it.

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The sails out of kitchen foil perhaps. Fine cotton linen fabric.

Or the sails out of ordinary A4 size paper,or brown or green parcel wrapping paper

For my narrow boats I made the canvas coverings out of paper.
Try doing a sample first.
Screw up paper into a ball.Unscrew it and screw it up again but in a different direction and repeat again and again,this does two things it makes the paper very soft and not stiff like before.It also help give the natural look of canvas. Using a water based colour wash paint dab and let it dry,this soaks into each and every tiny crease, giving hopefully the look you require. When dry add more differing colour washes here and there.Then let it dry and then cut out your sails. You can use the plastic sail`s that came with the kit as ten plates for each sail if you like.Stick your rope,( perhapes fishing line or cotton twin) ,onto them then try and form your sails how you wish them to look laying them on something curved might help,and stiffen each sail up using a cheap hair spray, ( 35p ) I have never used spray polish to do this job,so I don`t know if that would work.
You will need to spray it a couple of times on each side. If your paint is water based on your sail`s this will not cause ruin to it. If this is of help to you,and you wish to try it,you might even find a better way of doing it. I find people often underestimate the use of paper in modelling projects. It is the cheapest of things on this planet and If it does the job ,it`s all well and good.

I must add this, This is not a wind up! And also not all my quirky ideas work out.

Picture in public domain.)

Below the famous picture known the world over,and you can see lots of rigging and flags on Henry VIII Flag Ship.

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The Mary Rose : 20 heavy guns made of bronze weighing up to two and a half tons each, and 60 light guns a complement of some 500 men. There were 30 gunners that were in charge of certain guns and gun crews that managed them.

By the way that ships hull is looking very impressive in need. BB
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Posted by Beano Boy on 06 Aug 2014, 05:23

I ment to end it in deed not need,a tired slip of my typing finger.Now it is 20 past 5 in the morning and I`m off to my bed. BB
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Posted by tomikd on 06 Aug 2014, 18:13

Beano B, THANK YOU SO MUCH :thumbup: I decided for plastic sail from original model. Because it could be problem with the spar. Now I am working on ropes and ladder. I think Your instruction will help me to. I try to make it easy. 1:400 is very small scale for complicated lines of ropes. So I will be very easy, because model is easy too and there are few problem places on surface, what complicate me to do everything.
Picture will be soon
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Posted by Beano Boy on 07 Aug 2014, 00:33

tomikd,I think in this scale you have made a wise choice to keep the model easy by using the original sail`s. As to any advice that I have given," you are most welcome." I have found to my cost,to over complicate the obvious can cause Utter Frustration especially when trying to construct a most fiddly Model Kit. BB
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Posted by tomikd on 07 Aug 2014, 18:19

Only ropes are missing. Ship was done, without ropes now. But I am working on it. I had problem with decals. They are too small.... see picture
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Posted by Peter on 07 Aug 2014, 19:38

Looks great so far! Is the holder included in the set? And are all the colour parts decals?
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Posted by Beano Boy on 07 Aug 2014, 20:10

Looking Fantastic! Could you please show how you are doing the rope and rope ladders? BB
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Posted by tomikd on 08 Aug 2014, 13:31

The holder-base is part of set. Was painted by me. When I look at ship, I think, that ropes are finished. I don´t want glue here to much ropes, because of scale. Just base ropes. I am workin now on ladders. I will make picture for You soon. :-D
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Posted by Kekso on 08 Aug 2014, 14:43

I like the progress you've made
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Posted by tomikd on 08 Aug 2014, 15:09

Every coloured small parts are decals. And there are some picture of ropes. This is how looks Mary Rose now
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I made small template for ladders from paper.
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First one, was rope in the middle. Glue small ropes across.
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Than glue another two long ropes down along.
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When I made bigger ladder, first one was in the middle, glue one rope across on the bottom one on the top, than glue long ropes down along. Needs to by fixed. Than glue another small ropes across until the end. Finally glue last long ropes down along. Be careful, donˇt glue ladders on the paper. Will be glued to paper and than it is hard to get it down. I hope You understand my english :lol:

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Posted by David O'Brien on 08 Aug 2014, 22:10

BB offers some excellent tips.
Very much how to make a spiders web.
I make sails by using the original plastic as a former or mould then use kitchen tissue and pva glue to make the sails. When dry it has a translucent effect.
You gain a lot of skills and learn a lot by doing a project like this.
BTW shouldn't you have put it in the bottle to start with :-)

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Posted by Beano Boy on 09 Aug 2014, 03:31

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Well Done.All one has to do in these situations is apply logic. Then do the utter complete oppersite!

If ever I wish to model this ship I`ll do this version of her as she lay on her side since she sank in 1545 ,with no mast`s,sails or indeed ropes. Just a few Guppies! BB
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Posted by tomikd on 16 Aug 2014, 14:31

HMS Mary Rose is finished now.
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Posted by Dad's Army on 16 Aug 2014, 14:44

Cool model this is, you have done a great (or must i say small) job here!
I think Benno will love this one as well!
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Posted by Greg77 on 16 Aug 2014, 15:21

Congratulation!
You've made an excellent work on the the rigging, especially in this small scale
and of course the ship altogether looks wonderful too
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Posted by Kekso on 16 Aug 2014, 15:45

Ship looks amazing... trick with ropes is very cool
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Posted by raif on 16 Aug 2014, 17:40

very nice model! this april i made a trip to london (visit the salute) and had time to went to portmouth. next the hms victory there is the fantastic museum of the mary rose. it's really worth a visit!!! there you can see the real ship!!!
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